P.S All, I had to remove the second pic because I didn't know it was copy-righted. Sorry Yas, I didn't know it was copy-righted. I didn't read the sidebar because generally when I visit, I am going, when I saw the site, called Hijabs-High, I saw very little hijab, and just a little scarf. If it was called "Scarf-Style" I wouldn't be in a virtual tizzy:DThe intentions of the site are sweet, to share hijab style with the rest of us, and many of the styles inspire, even if they are not Islamic, but they also confuse, if one labels them "hijab". If hijab to one is just a scarf then it is actually called "khimar" but hijab is much more than just a khimar. And khimar has to cover certain parts of the body including the chest or it just isn't Islamic khimar. When I was a new Muslim, I thought alot of things were okay to wear that are not, simply because Muslimahs wore them. Islamic hijab is allowed to be stylish, but it still has to follow what the Qu'ran and the Prophet Mohammed sallalahu allahi wa salaam said about it.
Here is the pic I had posted http://hijabshigh.blogspot.com/2009/04/st-edmunds-college-cambridge.html(tights, skinny jeans, and boots and skirt, are not hijab---no ifs or ands about it). You can wear these things under your hijab, but not as hijab. I am tempted to take a picture of it, because the girl's style is REALLY REALLY cute, but the bottom half of her body is Islamically clothed-but-naked. (I TOTALLY wore this sort of outfit out before I converted to Islam). And If I took a picture of a picture, it isn't copyrighted. The face of the Mona Lisa is everywhere even though the postcard is owned by the Musuem for a reason. But, too much effort. If the girl was only wearing a skirt or even wide leg trousers I wouldn't even bring it up. But I wanted to because she is so close and yet so far. My Allah subhanhu wa ta'ala accept her intentions.
Anonymous, I don't post anonymous comments since I require anonymous users to read the comment box before commenting and it says that there:D On these posts I am not picking on the girls. I am aware, many girls might wear hijab (a scarf---not actually hijab) to please someone other than Allah subhanhu wa ta'ala: their family, men, or their country. That is wrong because then, as I said, it is just a scarf, and not a hijab at all, if it is not worn for the sake of Allah subhanhu wa ta'ala, in the way precribed by Him, sometimes explained by His messenger. Also, I acknowledge, that maybe the girl's don't have the proper knowledge. Nowadays we are bombarded by so many faux-fatwas that correct hijab can be difficult for the person that does not use the sunnah for guidance. I and many others are posting this online, that skirts with tights and knee length boots do not constitute anything accepted by Allah subhanhu wa ta'ala because it does not meet the requirement of modest, loose fitting, opaque clothing, that show nothing but the face and hands, and in one madhab, the feet. This is from the authentic sunnah. Read this post for the daleel http://beyoutifulhijabi.blogspot.com/2009/05/hijab-rehab-this-is-not-hijab.html
Again, cultural (or fashion for the sake of fashion rather than fashion for the sake of Islam) is just a scarf.
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Yap sis! True say. That sight is sooo common back home where I am from. The girl is half naked, but God forbid she let her hair show! :s
When will we stop making a mockery out of hijab I wonder?
http://thehijablog.wordpress.com/2009/04/11/hijabs-high-the-muslim-sartorialist/
As sisters we should guide each other to the truth. I'm afraid that 'hijab high' site promotes the wrong concept of hijab. There are the occasional times wear only a handful of sisters are covered according to the Quran and Sunnah. Amina summed it up well, "if you cant perform salaat in it, it is not a proper cover."
1. The copywrite issues may be posted by others if the author has been acknowledged and credited. Look at a school paper, if a student references something from a book or uses a picture, they have to use in most cases APA or similar citation giving credit where credit is due. If it is from a website, then their has to be a link posting back to the original reference with the author acknowledged.
If it is for education use, this would be covered under the FAIR USE OF COPYRIGHTED MATERIALS which is a federal law.
If it has been taken unknowing from a search engine that has not linked it back to the original owner. Then that should be stated in the photo until the copyrighted owner steps up and claims the copyright, then credit can be given or the image can be removed.
On the Islamic Principle; when dealing with another muslim, be it over a dispute or not. One it should be conducted away from the public for others to see. Second, there is a way to speak to our brothers and sisters even in conflict that does not cut them down and still keeps the respect that should be given even in the matter of a conflict.
A good rule of thumb in this would be that we must remember that when we are dealing with another muslim if it's verbal or through typed words, those actions are held accountable before Allah(swt) when our judgment comes. Also, the Prophet(PBUH) said to treat all Muslims with respect and to not belittle them or demean them in actions. Sister Yas, understanding that you want to protect your work that is your right, but there must be an understanding just what the copyright 'laws' really work. If Sister pixie didn't know who the copyrighted owner was then you should have just requested that she remove the photo or issue credit where credit is due. Belittling comments such as 'had you read the copyright notice' and your second comment are not an acceptable tone to use with your Sister especially in front of other Muslims.
Respect is above all a priority, because when someone else finds a fault in you, would you wished to be talked or treated the same way? I don't believe any of us could answer that we would want to be treated that way.
Assalamu Alaikum :o)
I love the site, and although many looks are not "ready" hijab just yet, you can use much of it as inspiration. I think it's a great initiative, just as I told the blog owner.
Pixie: Not meant as critique to you at all :)
I agree, I could get style inspiration from the site as well, but the name is wrong for that as well to me since some people are obviously gonna take that as being literal hijab, and not just hijab as the sad meaning it has become---merely a scarf. And not that site alone. That site just posts pictures, not made up fatwas, so it is the best of "hijab as a scarf" sites. I don't mean to call down the site in anyway. I just think some people are gonna find it confusing because of the name. This site's name is less stressful. ILOVEHISHMA ---Hishma could very well post just scarf dressing because the name doesn't claim it to be anything Islamic, just more modest. But lol, you know me, I LOVE ISLAMIC content. I love reading and history.
As for it being inspirational then in some cases, yes. However, I still find the site misleading. The least, whoever is the owner of the site can perhaps do is add a disclaimer and acknowledge that some of those outfits do not constitute as hijab (according to the Quran and Sunnah).
I agree with what you are saying here. So many of us are still confuse or just ignorant about the concept of hijab. Here in Malaysia, wearing clothing like the above pic is common mostly among the youths. Being a Muslim country, Malaysia has become a target for 'Islamic' fashion industry which to my opinion is trying to disregard the concept of hijab. It's not easy to help people understand that they are not covering their aurah properly when they sincerely think that wearing that kind of clothes are already covering the aurah. Some still think that covering the aurah means covering the hair. We still have lots of work here. It's good to see many Muslimah are covering but it's quite sad because the concept is not fully understood and applied. May Allah help us the da'ie and them the mad'u.
As Salaamu Alaikum!
Just a quick note to say thank you for taking down the copyrighted picture. I work in rights management in "my real life" and know the ins and outs of it - and also what a minefield it can be!
May I also ask that if you know of other sites which are using images from Hijabs High in any way, that you encourage them to contact me directly through the blog and not use images without permission.
Thanks so much and hope you've all had a wonderful Jummah :)
I totally agree with what you have said, and you know what, when I first starting wearing hijab those sites were SO confusing to me. I would wear long sleeved but tight t-shirts, because that's all that I saw and that was the only way I knew how to dress astaghfirullah. The worst part about the site, in my opinion, is that the author will not post anything but positive comments. I have attempted to post SEVERAL times about how the outfit was pretty but it would be better if the girl covered her neck, or how I liked the shirt but the jeans were too tight (and I have used different names and everything) but not once has my comment been posted. Instead all I see are comments saying how great the sister looks - nowhere is it implied that this is NOT HIJAB. It's a scarf with an outfit. SubhanAllah so many people are misusing the word hijab and just devaluing it. It is just sick astahgifirullah!
"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."
So, I believe you are permitted to use the images as you are using them for criticism. Furthermore, you were using it for non-profit, educational and personal use tips...
Therefore you had every right to take the "copyrighted" image and use it for criticism and education.
I hope you find this helpful for any encounters you may have similar to this one in future!
- KimDonesia